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Darren
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Posted - 11/09/2007 :  15:19:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NuovoTech

Know anything about PowMax/Moving Star enclosures?

http://www.powmax.com/pics/accessory/emv18bk.htm

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Darren
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16 Posts

Posted - 11/09/2007 :  15:21:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone tried using the cheaper compactflash cards as hdd replacements? like a 16gb one? or do the compactflash have the sector write limits that ssd dont have?
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NuovoTech
Senior Member Member

USA
1312 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2007 :  02:22:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a question to anyone who's installed a SSD. My 80GB Toshiba HDD has a partitioned capacity of 74GB. Do SSDs lose a similar amount of GBs to partitioning or because they avoid the spinning disc/moving head geometry issues they lose considerably less GBs?
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Edwood
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USA
93 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2007 :  03:27:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NuovoTech

I have a question to anyone who's installed a SSD. My 80GB Toshiba HDD has a partitioned capacity of 74GB. Do SSDs lose a similar amount of GBs to partitioning or because they avoid the spinning disc/moving head geometry issues they lose considerably less GBs?



I'm 99.999% sure the SSD's will lose an identical amount, since it has to do with formatting partitions and cluster size, rather than hardware type, because there isn't a new type of format for SSD's, you pretty much install Windows the same as if it were a standard Hard Drive.
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Edwood
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USA
93 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2008 :  02:05:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is 80GB the largest drive we can get? Anything larger?
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Edwood
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USA
93 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2008 :  14:40:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is the 80GB Toshiba our only option for a larger than 60GB HDD?

-Ed
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Edwood
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USA
93 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2008 :  00:58:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like there is a 100GB HDD available. I have no idea what the model number is, but I'm assuming it's a Toshiba.

http://store.shopfujitsu.com/fpc/Ecommerce/buildseriesbean.do?series=P1620

You can configure the new P1620 with a 100GB HDD now.

-Ed
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Edwood
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USA
93 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2008 :  00:51:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would it at all be possible to mod the P1610's PCMCIA slot to use the 1/8" HDD internally? Either through an adapter, with part of the HDD sticking out, or maybe something more hardcore like solding directly?

I never use the PCMCIA slot, and it would've been so perfect to have a SSD drive as the primary drive and a HDD in place of the PCMCIA slot.

-Ed
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SeanH
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USA
85 Posts

Posted - 02/02/2008 :  13:08:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have spent many hours searching for a replacement drive for the 1510 that is larger than 60GB. Here is what I've found.

  • The 80 GB Non ZIF is still available, but not from vendors I have ever heard of and not that many left even so.

  • The new 1620 is available with 100GB and 80GB disks but Toshiba no longer makes a non-ZIF model in either of these sizes. So either they are not Toshiba or The 1620 uses a ZIF connector.

  • I was not able to find a non-ZIF disk of the proper size that is larger than 60GB from any manufacturer, except for the few mentioned above.


If anyone out there can point me at a link to a new, non-ZIF, 80GB or larger disk from a known reputable dealer please do. My wife's 1510 is on it's last legs.


Sean



Life: better than the alternative…

Edited by - SeanH on 02/02/2008 13:29:40
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Edwood
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USA
93 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2008 :  07:58:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just bought an 80GB Toshiba drive off of eBay.

Where can I get a bootable 1.8" external enclosure?

Seems only available on eBay.

Would this one work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140206332388&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=004

-Ed
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tmt
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2769 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2008 :  08:46:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep, that one will work fine. I bought a very similar one from seller "cubeternet" and it
works great. They come in both Toshiba and ZIF versions btw.

Tom.
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slewis1513
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USA
20 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2008 :  15:45:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Edwood

quote:
Originally posted by NuovoTech

I have a question to anyone who's installed a SSD. My 80GB Toshiba HDD has a partitioned capacity of 74GB. Do SSDs lose a similar amount of GBs to partitioning or because they avoid the spinning disc/moving head geometry issues they lose considerably less GBs?



I'm 99.999% sure the SSD's will lose an identical amount, since it has to do with formatting partitions and cluster size, rather than hardware type, because there isn't a new type of format for SSD's, you pretty much install Windows the same as if it were a standard Hard Drive.




I installed a 32G SSD (Samsung) and it has a reported capacity of 30.4G.




Road Warrior
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tmt
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2769 Posts

Posted - 02/15/2008 :  16:35:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slewis1513

I installed a 32G SSD (Samsung) and it has a reported capacity of 30.4G.

That's because Windows counts GBs as 1024*1024*1024, while the rest of the storage
industry counts GBs as 1000*1000*1000. Also, after formatting with a filesystem,
Windows reports only the available space, which is less again due to overhead.

Tom.
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jkim
Junior Member

USA
161 Posts

Posted - 02/23/2008 :  22:15:28  Show Profile  Visit jkim's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Be careful with the CF to IDE adapters. My experience has been very slow performance.

I installed one using a fast 2GB CF card on a different laptop, and the overall performance of the system is much slower compared to the IDE HD.

http://mdjosephkim.blogspot.com/
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blaznc
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67 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2008 :  21:25:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
CF-IDE can be very fast, you must have a UDMA 266x or higher card. I have been using my Lexar 300x CF since day 1 and it boots in about 15-20seconds. See here for more info.

http://home.comcast.net/~blin408/vaio2.html

http://theopoon.rinnovative.com/cgi-bin/viewpost.cgi?p=20080227203850
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nomo
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815 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2008 :  10:10:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tmt

quote:
Originally posted by slewis1513

I installed a 32G SSD (Samsung) and it has a reported capacity of 30.4G.

That's because Windows counts GBs as 1024*1024*1024, while the rest of the storage
industry counts GBs as 1000*1000*1000. Also, after formatting with a filesystem,
Windows reports only the available space, which is less again due to overhead.

Tom.

Applying 1000^3/1024^3 gives an effective ratio of 93.13%, which means a 32GB SSD should report no more than 29.8GB. How could slewis' machine report 30.4GB? My factory-installed 32GB SSD only reports 29.0GB.
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tmt
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2769 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2008 :  11:32:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmm, good point. Perhaps Windows is using 1000x1024x1024. In any case, the point is,
they're using different units.

Your SSD appears to have 1GB of lost space. Perhaps it was partitioned or the capacity
was formatted for an OEM recovery install?

Tom.
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nomo
Average Member

815 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2008 :  17:20:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tmt

the point is, they're using different units.
Agreed -- I'm just trying to get a better understanding of drive capacity. My SSD is down to about 10GB of available space even though my files occupy only 4.1MB.
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tmt
Advanced Member

2769 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2008 :  19:44:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Under Vista, a large amount of the storage comes from the /windows/winsxs (side-by-side)
directory. This is where system files, uninstalls, and other core stuff are kept.
Often, the files in other windows directories are simply links to them, so it's not
always duplicate. But, lots of it is, and isn't needed. For example, after installing
SP1, you can run vsp1cln.exe to clear out a bunch of stuff in it.

Another popular space-waster is \windows\installer, a hidden directory that holds all
the msi's and setup.exe's. It's used for reinstall/repair, etc.

Basically, they're necessary evils, but knowing they are there can help you account
for the space.

One suggestion is to look for directories that have a lot of text files, or bulk
data in them, and set the "compress" attribute on that tree. I do that for Visual
Studio and it saves a quarter GB, for example. It also works on the \windows\installer
directory, saves nearly half a gig. But, don't try it on system directories like
winsxs.

Tom.


Tom.
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nomo
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815 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2008 :  02:15:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
BTW, the P1610 I borrowed yesterday aligns with the 1/1.024^3 ratio. Its 30GB HDD is sized by Windows as 27.9GB.
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1ezdealz
Starting Member

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2008 :  23:24:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Noted some discussion of SSD hard drives here. I'm running a 32GB SSD and a ridata 266X 32GB compact flash card as a "C" and "D" drives. HDtach shows 40mbs transfer rate on SSD; boots really fast, and is probably the largest performance increase that you can add to a P1510D, now can someone figure out a simple way to add bluetooth to a non-bluetooth P1510D INTERNALLY!!
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nomo
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815 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2008 :  00:38:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 1ezdealz

now can someone figure out a simple way to add bluetooth to a non-bluetooth P1510D INTERNALLY!!
Try the search tool. Now 33% searchier.
quote:
Originally posted by UnLoGiC in Bluetooth Part Number

I don't know about the P1610 but the P1510 uses diffrent screens depending on if the device was sold with blueblooth or not which makes it very cumbersome to add bluetooth to a non-bluetooth P1510. I suspect it has something to do with antennas, you'll find more info about it if you search this forum.
You could also call Fujitsu technical support to get the required part numbers, or search eBay:

PCB Bluetooth with Cable for Fujitsu P1510 CP248270

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nomo
Average Member

815 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2008 :  01:12:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 1ezdealz

I'm running a 32GB SSD and a ridata 266X 32GB compact flash card...
Where did you get the 32GB 266X CF card? Could you post a link, please?
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nomo
Average Member

815 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  12:40:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nomo

Where did you get the 32GB 266X CF card? Could you post a link, please?

Found it at NewEgg. The price is very attractive (currently $140).

1ezdealz, what does HDTach show for the 233X CF card (random access, average read, average burst, etc)? What cardbus adapter are you using?
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pUK
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2 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2008 :  06:41:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm looking to get an MTRON MSD-PATA3018-016 which says interface type ATA-7.

Can anybody confirm what type of connector is on this or the P1610 and if this drive is compatible? Thanks.
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